WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.920 --> 00:00:04.259 Madhu Thangavelu: you're going to go to people who can answer. 2 00:00:05.490 --> 00:00:07.589 Madhu Thangavelu: kim's still has more questions. 3 00:00:09.480 --> 00:00:14.429 Madhu Thangavelu: For Sebastian to Oh, let me, let me just add let them let you guys know what it's about. 4 00:00:16.109 --> 00:00:18.750 Madhu Thangavelu: Everybody enjoyed sebastian's. 5 00:00:20.130 --> 00:00:23.190 Madhu Thangavelu: Exploiting the Arctic and. 6 00:00:25.260 --> 00:00:32.820 Madhu Thangavelu: They want Sebastian they want to know if you want an interview, if you are looking for interns. 7 00:00:33.270 --> 00:00:51.360 Madhu Thangavelu: And, and that how did you take care of the food and electricity for 100 days I think they had a huge battery right at the base of the days of this habitat that he showed but that's a good question for Sebastian about food, I think the polar bears discovery and. 8 00:00:53.370 --> 00:01:10.080 Madhu Thangavelu: It seems your origami structure doesn't have turnip you're right, I mean he did show some, but you may have heard it was acoustically very hard for them to keep up, and I suppose the heat to that maintain it using the batteries good. 9 00:01:11.370 --> 00:01:11.970 Madhu Thangavelu: um. 10 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:19.620 Madhu Thangavelu: From Ken did you say 700 times 700% I think seven times. 11 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:32.310 Vittorio Netti: You say out a that's what I remember my question mark about because I didn't catch up on the ratio between there and apply it in the political curation a seems I understood 700 AC wow that's that seems so much. 12 00:01:33.210 --> 00:01:34.440 Madhu Thangavelu: Chris has a thought Chris. 13 00:01:36.330 --> 00:01:43.650 Madhu Thangavelu: Now is we just went over a good next one, is a question for Pablo Pablo is with us are gone. 14 00:01:45.090 --> 00:01:51.000 Madhu Thangavelu: spacesuit connection to the Rover of habitat doesn't seem comfortable oh gosh tell me about it. 15 00:01:52.230 --> 00:02:01.140 Madhu Thangavelu: The entire space suit concepts need a lot of revision to make it work, but you hit it right on the spot relief. 16 00:02:03.030 --> 00:02:11.130 Madhu Thangavelu: Okay, and especially when people want to get off of it okay doffing so suppose darling okay. 17 00:02:12.810 --> 00:02:25.380 Madhu Thangavelu: How to figure this problem so she's very worried about that from Albert moosa thus was mentioned several times what is being done done on dust filtration. 18 00:02:26.700 --> 00:02:36.360 Madhu Thangavelu: did anyone want to say anyone have a question my thinking is, this is a nuisance it messed up fouled up Apollo very badly. 19 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:47.700 Madhu Thangavelu: It had problems on Luna car and Russian intimidation it pretty pretty much killed one of the Lunar cards and Venus I mean on on Mars. 20 00:02:48.510 --> 00:03:00.960 Madhu Thangavelu: Everything is coated with a PIC pilot dust so architects need to design This at least show your windshield wiper to clean it once in a while something but anyway, think about. 21 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:10.620 Madhu Thangavelu: Venus before moore's is there any space architecture Center on the planet Venus yes, there is. 22 00:03:11.340 --> 00:03:21.930 Madhu Thangavelu: And that that is said at least one design that I have saw a scene come out of Jeffrey landis that does not talk about landing on nina's. 23 00:03:22.350 --> 00:03:34.230 Madhu Thangavelu: But i'm floating in the atmosphere which does not have so much sulfur sulfuric acid and and, of course, much better gravity than any other planet, that we would be accustomed to. 24 00:03:35.820 --> 00:03:38.340 Madhu Thangavelu: So that's a question pankaj has a question. 25 00:03:39.510 --> 00:03:50.340 Madhu Thangavelu: In the context of the moon more settlement plans, what about the international consensus and framework on the use of space as a world comments. 26 00:03:51.840 --> 00:04:07.260 Madhu Thangavelu: Yes, dear package, this is where the debates are in April that they will be the UN coppers meeting where people will sit together to together and decide the the future of space together together necessary important. 27 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:21.480 Madhu Thangavelu: And one more from leave I wondered if the game keep an example, some don't and the presentation had been tested with 3D printing, is it possible. 28 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:24.990 Madhu Thangavelu: To construct with 3D printing. 29 00:04:26.370 --> 00:04:32.130 Madhu Thangavelu: or somebody else should answer this I mean any three Xavier did you want to say something. 30 00:04:36.270 --> 00:04:37.770 Madhu Thangavelu: My understanding is yes. 31 00:04:38.010 --> 00:04:39.990 Xavier De Kestelier: 3D printing 3D printing. 32 00:04:41.850 --> 00:05:01.320 Madhu Thangavelu: wondered if the given examples of dogs in the presentation had been tested with 3D printing, is it possible to construct with 3D printing, if you remember Xavier Enrico Dini did some interesting work and then. 33 00:05:03.150 --> 00:05:09.870 Madhu Thangavelu: did some great work when you were designing that had any other thoughts and, of course. 34 00:05:11.130 --> 00:05:12.150 Madhu Thangavelu: Our own Professor. 35 00:05:13.350 --> 00:05:14.730 Madhu Thangavelu: has been working on 3D printing. 36 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:20.910 Xavier De Kestelier: rick, of course, that fosters that kind of ISA project. 37 00:05:21.960 --> 00:05:26.400 Xavier De Kestelier: That was, you know very early on, we didn't really go and although we did some. 38 00:05:27.570 --> 00:05:31.800 Xavier De Kestelier: Actual 3D printing parts, we did a part in. 39 00:05:32.940 --> 00:05:42.390 Xavier De Kestelier: earth environments kind of a large bought brought really there we even did that point almost 10 years ago we did to test of 3D printing. 40 00:05:42.840 --> 00:06:03.150 Xavier De Kestelier: In a vacuum which was really interesting, yes, it was time is three principles, but it was a good test right we didn't go at that stage into actually kind of 3D printing the Dome structures at all, but yeah but this many studies that they can show that these things are possible. 41 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:16.230 Madhu Thangavelu: Yes, you know we did some low pressure testing and realize there's a long way to go before something like mirrors idea for reinforcement of the of the what we would call a pressure vessel. 42 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:25.920 Madhu Thangavelu: And to give you a rough idea is to get you to 14.7 PSI which is cabin pressure, which is what we breathe at sea level here. 43 00:06:26.400 --> 00:06:39.300 Madhu Thangavelu: Holding you to go out and kick the car tire the tire on your car and that's approximately twice, you know 30 to 40 PSI so if you're an Earth. 44 00:06:39.780 --> 00:06:52.950 Madhu Thangavelu: And you have a differential pressure of 15 pounds per PSI and the tire you understand how much pressure goes into a habitat that is sitting out there. 45 00:06:53.520 --> 00:07:15.030 Madhu Thangavelu: On the moon are on Mars, because the atmosphere and Mars is just an excuse, you know it's very little, so I think there is a lot of experimentation that needs to be done in vacuum in terminal and finance back in because there is also a diagonal motion, you know. 46 00:07:16.440 --> 00:07:33.060 Madhu Thangavelu: Every day you're going to get hit with a temperature differential in excess of 100 down under degrees Celsius and on the moon it's worse it gets to about 300 degrees between the 28 day in the 14 day cycle. 47 00:07:34.230 --> 00:07:39.720 Madhu Thangavelu: So those are the questions I have here oh more okay well my name. 48 00:07:42.030 --> 00:07:50.550 Madhu Thangavelu: Is marsha here, yes marcia this question is for you about your dorms masa once you present it to leave. 49 00:07:52.890 --> 00:07:57.060 Mahsa Esfand: um so we were trying to really predict. 50 00:07:57.780 --> 00:08:05.820 Madhu Thangavelu: The question clearly can answer my question about domes test word 3D printing. 51 00:08:07.980 --> 00:08:15.240 Mahsa Esfand: On saying that we wanted to test the students who have results of the dough MIT media lab with the. 52 00:08:16.350 --> 00:08:31.800 Mahsa Esfand: doctors who meanie and perfect a priority, though, and others and, like to travel and when I was there just for two months and half, so it was very, very short and we didn't really have time for that Another issue is that. 53 00:08:33.180 --> 00:08:35.190 Mahsa Esfand: we're really wanted 3D printed in. 54 00:08:36.510 --> 00:08:51.630 Mahsa Esfand: In actual scale so when you do it in smaller scale of like one 200 or wanted 25 or hanging is not that big of an issue, but when you print it in one to one scale, they are hanging issue that it doesn't let you to poverty to. 55 00:08:52.710 --> 00:09:00.870 Mahsa Esfand: The top of the stove and that was one of the reasons that I said that maybe a ribs are better solution because we're abstaining. 56 00:09:01.980 --> 00:09:23.850 Mahsa Esfand: They need the molding underneath so that's and they use bricks not 3D printing so that everyone to go through the 3D printing probably to surface with a better solution and we need a key store or top CAP for that kind of path, but if we go with the ribs That is another thing that. 57 00:09:24.990 --> 00:09:38.010 Mahsa Esfand: I mean it as it is another path so I mean I was just testing how these two paths fast in different effects to hold this on So the answer is yes or no. 58 00:09:39.180 --> 00:10:00.000 Madhu Thangavelu: And, and you know you said it right, the masa and you know domes are are very important, now you'll see we saw them in all our designs they don't structures in one way or the other, and if you look at the words you know i'm glad that that Xavier showed an image of. 59 00:10:01.500 --> 00:10:11.550 Madhu Thangavelu: candela's work in financial structures, there were several Xavier and the other other man who did magic with financial structures was. 60 00:10:12.870 --> 00:10:23.310 Madhu Thangavelu: illusionary nursery did some fascinating things and they all agree that you know we have to conserve resources to maximize space and. 61 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:37.170 Madhu Thangavelu: spherical space is important because, by pascal's law, you want to you want to be able to give uniform pressure or a or a or a pressure vessel so that's why we go for those kinds of. 62 00:10:38.400 --> 00:10:43.260 Madhu Thangavelu: Those kinds of designs le hope that answered your question. 63 00:10:45.420 --> 00:10:50.520 Madhu Thangavelu: Okay yeah, so now we are open to other thoughts of their mortgage. 64 00:10:52.020 --> 00:11:11.040 Madhu Thangavelu: And john mankin so anyone else can answer Okay, is there enough information and data about future version of moon Mars or other livable lands and planets I mean can be know what will happen to the moon, in the future and we designed. 65 00:11:12.780 --> 00:11:14.400 Madhu Thangavelu: Accordingly, then. 66 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:19.650 Madhu Thangavelu: Can you clarify that a leaf. 67 00:11:20.940 --> 00:11:23.040 Madhu Thangavelu: john left us but. 68 00:11:24.930 --> 00:11:28.050 Madhu Thangavelu: Is there any information and data on future. 69 00:11:29.070 --> 00:11:32.040 Madhu Thangavelu: Future vision of moon I think she means. 70 00:11:33.900 --> 00:11:36.990 AIAA LA-LV: We just unmute her so she can travel yeah. 71 00:11:37.860 --> 00:11:39.570 Madhu Thangavelu: Hello Hello. 72 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:41.520 Madhu Thangavelu: me go for it. 73 00:11:41.640 --> 00:11:41.910 yeah. 74 00:11:42.930 --> 00:11:51.720 Marschitect Elif KEVE: Well, I mean about the question, I wonder what will happen 2 million okay I don't I don't want to talk about the other lines, but to simplify it. 75 00:11:52.200 --> 00:12:09.000 Marschitect Elif KEVE: will happen to the moon into feature, I mean not near future, but the far future, what do we have enough information about the future version of moon and according to that information, we can design differently, because if we design, according to the information we have now. 76 00:12:10.710 --> 00:12:24.720 Marschitect Elif KEVE: But the change will change and we will design differently, so we need the date data and information of moon about feature creation of it is there enough information about a time. 77 00:12:25.770 --> 00:12:29.610 Madhu Thangavelu: Okay, in general, the moon will be there long after we. 78 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:38.910 Madhu Thangavelu: Leave except that if look at it in geological time the moon is moving away from Planet Earth, I think you know that right. 79 00:12:39.870 --> 00:12:40.980 Madhu Thangavelu: anybody else want to. 80 00:12:41.040 --> 00:12:42.510 Madhu Thangavelu: answer this question for. 81 00:12:44.130 --> 00:12:46.500 Madhu Thangavelu: For the Marsh detect a leaf. 82 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:49.290 Madhu Thangavelu: Space architecture. 83 00:12:51.780 --> 00:13:01.950 Madhu Thangavelu: No, no comments leave, but you know I think we have a glorious future in the coming if you're asking for the coming next 100 years. 84 00:13:02.520 --> 00:13:12.810 Madhu Thangavelu: we're going to have a lot of things happen on the moon and john mankins we all work together on his reference mission for the South pole our region. 85 00:13:13.410 --> 00:13:30.720 Madhu Thangavelu: I, for one i'm not excited about the south pole or region because I sometimes go out in the evening and play baseball and one of the things I find is the shadows, do not let you see and the terrain. 86 00:13:31.800 --> 00:13:39.900 Madhu Thangavelu: You can pick even pick last balls when the sun is shallow because the terrain changes completely. 87 00:13:40.830 --> 00:13:57.210 Madhu Thangavelu: So, Robert and so on we'll have a great happy time on the polar regions of the moon, but humans, we use eyes and we need to see the sun, and so, then you asked me what are you going to do 14 days of nighttime well that's another story, but anyhow, thank you. 88 00:13:58.410 --> 00:14:00.090 Madhu Thangavelu: Okay, any other questions guys. 89 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:05.760 Marschitect Elif KEVE: Oh, thanks, a lot, but I have a last question, please, if you let me. 90 00:14:05.940 --> 00:14:07.950 Marschitect Elif KEVE: Ask before i've unmuted. 91 00:14:09.060 --> 00:14:11.640 Madhu Thangavelu: Go for it, one more question and we gotta go. 92 00:14:12.270 --> 00:14:22.410 Marschitect Elif KEVE: yeah Okay, my last question is about biomimicry I see a lot biomimicry in this space architectural design, so what is the importance of it. 93 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:35.130 Madhu Thangavelu: Let me see who did biomimicry I know that mirror had some nice walking walking Roberts just a pair to did some great work in go for it one of the other. 94 00:14:35.340 --> 00:14:37.200 Marschitect Elif KEVE: Maurice also did it. 95 00:14:37.710 --> 00:14:44.070 Madhu Thangavelu: Yes, that's right, so I don't know who else is on here Elif who would like to take that question. 96 00:14:46.710 --> 00:14:48.600 Madhu Thangavelu: Does that be good for. 97 00:14:50.040 --> 00:14:53.160 Giuseppe Calabrese: This talking about by biomimicry right. 98 00:14:53.340 --> 00:15:00.300 Giuseppe Calabrese: Right um yeah I suppose well in my project didn't really take into account by on me me and create that. 99 00:15:01.980 --> 00:15:04.410 Giuseppe Calabrese: Suppose it's it's a good way of. 100 00:15:05.880 --> 00:15:12.270 Giuseppe Calabrese: analyzing analyzing the world around us and and putting those ideas into into the concepts, but. 101 00:15:13.380 --> 00:15:16.020 Giuseppe Calabrese: If you have a specific question so regarding that. 102 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:25.050 Marschitect Elif KEVE: yeah yeah I mean what is the importance of by an increase in the space architecture, because I see a lot of. 103 00:15:26.220 --> 00:15:29.100 Marschitect Elif KEVE: Examples of current design. 104 00:15:29.880 --> 00:15:32.670 Madhu Thangavelu: Let me, let me take it just a bit. 105 00:15:34.560 --> 00:15:45.660 Madhu Thangavelu: ellie's biomimetic mimicry is very important, and that is why we have the robber not on space station and the whole idea of co robots. 106 00:15:45.900 --> 00:15:56.730 Madhu Thangavelu: that some of us mentioned here, the idea that you would interact with the humanoid robot and it requires a great level of. 107 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:12.090 Madhu Thangavelu: of thinking, both on the part of the human and the humanoid and the interactions have to be knowing each other's task mission and action in real time and. 108 00:16:12.570 --> 00:16:21.240 Madhu Thangavelu: It is an area where we are catching a we use a term called artificial intelligence and that helps you to have a dialogue with the robot. 109 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:34.860 Madhu Thangavelu: And we are catching up in that area and and one clear thing is that all of the services that we go to our rough pristine terrain. 110 00:16:35.550 --> 00:16:47.760 Madhu Thangavelu: And wheeled vehicles cannot handle some of the slopes, and the rough and tumble of all these places so legs are the way to Google, that is why we have a lot of. 111 00:16:48.930 --> 00:16:59.370 Madhu Thangavelu: lot of we're a lot of legs and designs that mirror show too so it's very important and, for me, I think other people do. 112 00:17:01.080 --> 00:17:06.390 Madhu Thangavelu: Anything that has a head a body and legs and standing about our height. 113 00:17:07.830 --> 00:17:16.350 Madhu Thangavelu: We have a natural tendency to associate with it in a in a human level and. 114 00:17:17.520 --> 00:17:34.260 Madhu Thangavelu: There are a lot of experiments in psychology about phantom arms and remote movie there's a very fascinating experiments, you can pick them up on YouTube some of the Ted talk show it, so there is a lot of things to be said about biomimicry because, after all. 115 00:17:36.300 --> 00:17:50.670 Madhu Thangavelu: Nature designed us over billions of years to become healthy look so it's only natural for us to quickly copy and use that model to create avatars so that's my take on it. 116 00:17:52.380 --> 00:17:53.310 Madhu Thangavelu: Is that good. 117 00:17:54.450 --> 00:17:55.590 Marschitect Elif KEVE: yeah Thank you thanks a lot. 118 00:17:56.340 --> 00:18:06.690 Madhu Thangavelu: Okay guys Okay, did you have any dialogue between yourselves guys, you know we don't want to oh it's already 430 and we should slowly wind up. 119 00:18:10.140 --> 00:18:12.780 Madhu Thangavelu: I am happy to close this event. 120 00:18:14.340 --> 00:18:17.310 Madhu Thangavelu: When pastor by an hour can. 121 00:18:19.830 --> 00:18:20.460 buy, but I think. 122 00:18:21.540 --> 00:18:23.250 Madhu Thangavelu: I think it was delightful Thank you. 123 00:18:23.820 --> 00:18:29.130 Madhu Thangavelu: To all who joined us and then can will curate. 124 00:18:30.180 --> 00:18:43.560 Madhu Thangavelu: All of this and put it out, so that all of you can see, and what went on during the course of the day, and my hope is that architects. 125 00:18:44.850 --> 00:19:05.070 Madhu Thangavelu: spend a little more time with engineers and engineers with architects, you know, during the course of the profession, usually and that happens, naturally, because you are, you know right there discussing it with it and the history shows that. 126 00:19:06.810 --> 00:19:17.130 Madhu Thangavelu: architects always prevail, because the bigger vision, they bring to it at usc we have realized this, and now we have a whole philosophy. 127 00:19:17.550 --> 00:19:38.280 Madhu Thangavelu: called engineering Plus, which means we send our engineers into humanities classes, so they sit down and try to imbibe the the on yours and thought processes that goes into a humanitarian works and we call it engineering plus. 128 00:19:39.330 --> 00:19:56.430 Madhu Thangavelu: i'm sure this is happening in other schools, too, because now, the idea of partitioned education is no longer true because you have you have agents like YouTube you have open where and. 129 00:19:57.420 --> 00:20:12.090 Madhu Thangavelu: I find doctors and lawyers who come into my class the most remarkable because they they learn things from MIT open rare in a you know, so the idea of separate disciplines. 130 00:20:12.870 --> 00:20:26.340 Madhu Thangavelu: Is not the future now if you if to lie to answer leaves question what will it look like hundred years, I think the big changes will be on Planet Earth how we cooperate and how we do things. 131 00:20:27.150 --> 00:20:39.270 Madhu Thangavelu: And war is not the answer I mean you know we have to look at the how freedom of humanity is is cherished all over the world, I like to tell that. 132 00:20:39.930 --> 00:21:02.970 Madhu Thangavelu: Space is the ultimate playground before freedom real freedom, freedom of humanity freedom of thought and whenever I read the documents tickling the last four years from NASA when a lot of things happened there were several space policy documents from the lighthouse all of them suggested. 133 00:21:04.050 --> 00:21:12.600 Madhu Thangavelu: We are talking about the freedom of humanity, the freedom of women and men to do the things they want to do, and if we act that our. 134 00:21:13.140 --> 00:21:23.790 Madhu Thangavelu: or in space, we are bound to do that with our children on Planet Earth, and it is the most cherished thing I mean so much blood has been spilled. 135 00:21:24.390 --> 00:21:42.270 Madhu Thangavelu: To be free, and I think with that I want to close and give it some thought about why we do these things at the top top top rung level, it really is about the values that we cherish as a society and freedom, I think. 136 00:21:42.840 --> 00:22:00.180 Madhu Thangavelu: comes right up top and I will close with the term E pluribus unum it is written in the hearts of government in the United States and we push through it all around the globe so with that Thank you all, and thank you all for joining us. 137 00:22:02.130 --> 00:22:03.000 Madhu Thangavelu: Thank you guys. 138 00:22:04.440 --> 00:22:04.680 Mahsa Esfand: Very. 139 00:22:05.550 --> 00:22:06.840 Madhu Thangavelu: Much okay bye bye. 140 00:22:19.560 --> 00:22:20.100 Marschitect Elif KEVE: bye bye.